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Sep 24, 2025

In this episode of What I Want to Know, host Kevin P. Chavous sits down with Shaka Mitchell, Senior Fellow at the American Federation for Children and a national leader in education reform. From classrooms to courtrooms, Shaka has been at the center of the fight for school choice, charter schools, and equitable education policy. Together, they explore whether choice truly expands opportunity, how legislation is reshaping access, and what the future of education innovation might look like.

Chapters

[00:00] Introduction & framing the debate
[01:10] Shaka Mitchell’s personal education story
[03:50] How inequities sparked the school choice movement
[05:31] Is choice enough to ensure quality?
[06:36] Why choice can be catalytic for students
[09:34] Ensuring access for underserved families
[12:50] School choice across rural and urban America
[15:22] Regulation, charter schools, and innovation
[18:26] What true innovation in schools could look like
[24:30] Finding common ground in a divided system
[27:51] What’s next for school choice and federal programs

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